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oh2smooth
03-02-2009, 05:41 AM
:twisted: I've been playing online for about 1 year haven't risk a lot I"ve lost about 250 took third in a 2k gtd on AP won 250 Just wonderuing about these programs I've heard about and even been offered to show hole cards of other players and to change your hole cards any truth to these claims?

19RK64
03-02-2009, 01:26 PM
Hey, oh2smooth (Mike), Welcome to the forum, Nice cash in the "2k gtd at AbsolutePoker" Congrats! Hope you see you around. Sly has a NASCAR contest that you might want to look into, also a new Sport Pick coming up in a couple of days that free to enter an their real money to be won and even a poker game for players that picked a good % threw the contest, I enjoyed the last one and it only takes a minute to make a pick.



Personally I'm the real deal, I have NOT used any type of "cheat programs", nor have I tryed Bots, It would just take the fun out of it for me. If I got caught I lose everything anyway. But I have looked into it some and enjoy taking about this, This is a big issue, my biggest one is woundering if Im being teamed up on (like 2and3 player teams). I also heard about programs that you can change your hole cards with but haven't looked into them yet. Their has also been studies on the flow of cards and to me> that a the most important factor Online or Live.

Yes their are programs out their to see players cards with, I'm not sure if they work at all sites, Id say certain programs for certain sites, and I know of players that use their hand historys together, to come up with a way to call lose, thus being profitable finding patterns.sharing infomation with each other, couple be many in a group like this. Not sure about A/P card vault, if it a locked deal or set deal or truly random after the first card come off the deck (shuffling algorithm), I do believe its a 64bit program at A/P, but I haven't looked. Whatever you do in life follows you one way or another, Personally I wouldn't want that image. I do try to uphold and matain some type of a positive Standards & Morals about myself. If I got caught doing anything like this, I just wouldn't like the outcome that follows.


I have use Turrent downloads and filesharing sites for programs that would show me my win/lose per pairs, bankroll, set percents, ect.ect.ect. but most downloads come with trojans & keyloggers, others with spyware that need worked out. Their was a program I really liked, it was Poker Academy, you can also get up to 1000 free hand "Trail basic", if you by chance look into it, BE CAREFULL, in what you have in your hand history files, before you send to it, or it will fill it up before you play a hand lol. Well I have some information that might be interesting for you to see and read but I would hope you wouldn't use it for this nature, I'll wait an see how you respond to this.

I am totally against being cheated or cheating at the table. Another bad side to all of this is, some AntiGamblers, believe they won't have to do much more cause, Sites, BOTS, and Cheater will close it down for them.

Anyway check out the nascar thing here in the forum and keep your eye out for the new "sport picks contest" coming out here, These Forum games are a bit softer than open site games, but for the most part, well played with a good group of players.. All Sly's Forum the games are listed on the calendar click here to see> View Calendar (http://slydawgpoker.com/calendar.php) Good luck to ya.

oh2smooth
03-03-2009, 03:16 PM
That was certainly informative obviously it something you've been researching . I'm definitely not interested in cheating. I just worry if others are or they are stupid lucky. Example- yesterday I was playing 6 handed tourney on Full Tilt 1,000 GTD I'm holding AcJh in cutoff blinds are 15/30 I raise to 120 dealer button and small blind fold BB calls. Flop is JJ3 two clubs i check he bets 90 I call river is 8non club I check he bets 60 i raise it 330 he calls river is Q clubs i check he bets 240 i call he's holding 89 clubs. WTF did I do wrong! don't want to run him off and not make chips but don't want to lose a big pot either went on to raise with A10 and get call and bet out or outflopped, and then all in loser with AK vs AA sick because i raised he flat calls and then A on flop i'm all-in hes got trips. Just frustrating sometimes. You know . I love poker been playing avidly for 5 years. I feel I'm pretty good but it seems I give up on the marginal hand thats probably good or iI feel I have the best hand and I don't. I win a lot more at live games. I very rarely lose money live. So that's why I'm asking, any advice it apprecciated

oh2smooth
03-03-2009, 03:18 PM
Thanks and PS GO BUCKEYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!